RunOut #90: The Permit Debate Continues

Yosemite permits

If there is one thing you can say about this show, it’s that we are the most fair and balanced climbing podcast in the world. Following last episode’s discussion about Yosemite’s proposed overnight permits for big-wall climbers, we are speaking to two guests from the opposite side of the debate: Jesse McGahey is Yosemite National Park’s head climbing ranger. And Timmy O’Neill is a longtime professional athlete, founder of Paradox Sports, and board member of the Yosemite Climbing Association. Our discussion over this important rule-change proposal continues.

But first, we muse about the art of the sandbag. When is it totes aprops to hose your friend, and when is it just downright cruel? And what does it say about YOU when you’re the only climber not getting sandbagged by your peers?

Finally, Lucas Roman returns to the show to read an excerpt from his new book “The Greater Fool: Brad Gobright and the Blinding Shine of Originality.”

Show Notes

Read about the Wilderness Climbing Permits from the NPS

Add your voice to the discussion! Submit your comment about the Wilderness Climbing Permits here by November 16.

Lucas Roman’s new book “The Greater Fool: Brad Gobright and the Blinding Shine of Originality” is available at DiAngelo Publications.

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3 responses to “RunOut #90: The Permit Debate Continues”

  1. Cool…so its free right? Its not about the militarisation/commercialisation of inherent freedom to move. Its altruistic education. Tims smooth style could slip into any boardroom. Im 100 percent sure this generation is not selling out their children.

  2. Let the record show that the Yosemite climbing permit system was in fact implemented over the dead body of Tom Frost. Camp 4 was preserved for climbing due to years of advocacy and had he still been alive today, I am sure he would have found a way to stop it. If you don’t fight for your rights, you lose them. And that’s what just happened. And all because the law enforcement officers patrolling the Nose found too much garbage and waste. Or maybe it was the Freerider. Whatever. It is a problem that only affects climbers – the impact on the rest of the public, including police in their barracks, is zero. Collective punishment is not the solution. Neither is mandatory education or lecturing of climbers by rangers. The climbing public perceives this as being oppressed by the police. Especially if you have drugs and contraband in the campsite. I definitely resonated with the flashlight in the face to make sure you’re OK comment. This is what happens when you build too many roads, allow too many concessions and then privatize it. Do you have to go to rec.gov to get a bigwall permit now? Sad.

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