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RunOut #88: Booty Rules, Aloha Jefe

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Who doesn’t love booty? Finding gear on a route can make a climber’s day, but what are the best practices for finding the owner’s gear? Court’s in order for your friendly podcast hosts as they debate the finer points of booty while litigating one listener’s story of being accused of not doing enough to return booty to its “rightful” owner.

Our main guest today is Jeff Jackson, aka “Jefe.” Jeff is easily one of climbing’s most prolific route developers and greatest writers and storytellers. A former editor of Rock and Ice magazine and successful screenplay writer, Jeff currently teaches creative writing at the University of Hawaii Maui College. While living on Maui, Jeff has helped develop hundreds of new rock climbs and crags. Some of the more famous routes of his career, however, are located in Mexico and include El Sendero Luminoso in El Potrero Chico and El Gavilan on La Popa, which happens to be the subject of a new climbing film.

Last and certainly least, “Whose PSSAT is this anyway?” returns for today’s final bit.

Show Notes

Read “Paradox of Paradise,” by Jeff Jackson, which was originally published by Rock and Ice and appeared in Best American Sports Writing 2019.

Read “A Climber’s Ghost Story, Unexplained,” also by Jefe.

Check out the trailer for the new El Gavilan film by Savannah Cummins.

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2 responses to “RunOut #88: Booty Rules, Aloha Jefe”

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    Kat

    I enjoy the podcast in general, and it usually leaves me with food for thought. I found Jeff Jackson’s behavior in Hawaii really arrogant and colonizer-y and cringy, and also was a little disappointed that you guys didn’t probe a little more into the fact that white people have spent hundreds of years using the whole “but in my heart, my intentions were pure” excuse to completely disregard indigenous people protesting intrusion onto land and customs they hold sacred. I don’t know if I believe in ghosts, but it was pretty striking that Jackson automatically interpreted them showing him mercy as complete absolution of his actions.

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      Jefe

      Aloha Kat, just saw this and wanted to thank you for engaging. Good points. Colonizer Cringe is a great name for a route! I don’t know if I believe in ghosts either, but the color of my skin is irrelevant. You don’t know me. You don’t know whether some of my relatives appear on Texas censuses as indigenous or whether one of my relatives was African by way of Holland. In fact, by lumping me in with the white colonizers of yore you are perpetuating the kind of prejudice based on “race” that leads to abuses you seem to abhor. I abhor what happened to the Hawaiian people at the hands of Westerners. Historically, the Hawaiian’s who were colonized by the “white people” were actually colonizers themselves who came to the islands and overthrew folks who were already here, imposing their sometimes bloody customs and practices (including slavery) on the indigenous population. Yet I don’t hold the present day Hawaiian people, relatives of the colonizers, accountable for the actions of their ancestors. Do you? Would they be responsible if they had a different skin color? Feel free to critique my words — which are undoubtedly poorly expressed because I’m not that smart — but please leave my race (itself a vague, nonsensical term) out of it. Ad hominem attacks are cheap and ineffective and overshadow your legit points about my arrogance and self-aggrandizing interpretation of my experience. You can do better.

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